Which river? The text says اليم only. Should the map show no pin for this moment at all?

28:7 and 20:39 both use اليم without a name. 20:39 says the chest will be cast by the water onto the shore where an enemy picks it up; still no name, no country. If we put a pin on any river we are adding what the verse does not say. I propose the moment stays unpinned and the evidence panel records the silence, with any proposed identification shown as grade C or D on the wiki rather than on the map.

20:39Koran →

أَنِ اقْذِفِيهِ فِي التَّابُوتِ فَاقْذِفِيهِ فِي الْيَمِّ فَلْيُلْقِهِ الْيَمُّ بِالسَّاحِلِ يَأْخُذْهُ عَدُوٌّ لِّي وَعَدُوٌّ لَّهُ

Place him in the chest, then place it in the water; let the water cast it onto the shore; an enemy of Mine and an enemy of his will take him.

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Being verifiedBaynaEditor · 1· A · Quranic text

Point of view: the word never names a river, so no pin. Found: all 8 occurrences of اليم tabled with their syntactic frames (2:50, 7:136, 20:39 twice, 20:78, 20:97, 28:7, 28:40, 51:40). In every one it is a body of water; a proper name never appears beside it.

Quranic text · yamm-occurrences-table.pdf · ACorpus / word count · corpus-screenshot.png · A

Verification · 9/15 checks · 8 pass

Open the attached table and confirm the 8 verses are quoted correctly and that none places a proper name beside اليم.

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BaynaEditor · 1· 14

This settles the word. Can you add 2:50 and 7:136 to the timeline evidence panel for moment 12 as well, so both ends of the story show one word?

BaynaEditor · 1· 6

Yes, that will be in the verified version.

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Being verifiedBaynaEditor · 1· B · Material evidence

Point of view: keep a grey "proposed, unsupported" marker on the timeline card, not on the map. Found: the map rules already use grey for grade D; a screenshot of the rule and three past threads where rivers were proposed without a dated source.

Photo or scan · map-rules-grade-d.png · BMaterial evidence · 3 linked threads · B

Verification · 11/15 checks · 11 pass

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VerifiedBaynaEditor · 1· A · Quranic text

Point of view: the shore in 20:39 is the only place-like word and it is generic. Found: السَّاحِل is a hapax, this is its only occurrence in the Quran; corpus entry and the root s-ḥ-l in two classical lexica attached.

Corpus / word count · sahil-corpus.png · AMaterial evidence · lexica-s-h-l.pdf · B

Verification · 15/15 checks · 14 pass

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findingsBaynaEditor · 1· D · Interpretation

Point of view: the river is the Chelif in Algeria. Found: a 1930 travel account mentioning reed baskets on the Chelif.